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SNAPDRAGON 26

PEDRO

10 March 2006 00:18:55

Joined: 09 March 2006 23:54:50 | Posts: 1

I RECENTLY PURCHASED AND OLD SNAPDRAGON 26 AND THIS IS MY FIRST BILGE KEEL BOAT. NOT NEW TO SAILING,BUT THERE SEEMS LITTLE DATA AVAILABLE ON THIS DESIGN AND WISH TO FIND OUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BEFORE TAKING HER OUT OF THE WATER AND TRANSPORTING HER TO THE WEST COAST OF MEXICO. ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND OUT ABOUT TIS BOAT?
THANKS
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

31 March 2006 00:43:20

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email me at sales@hobbystation.net i have one this is a good Boat simon
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

16 April 2006 01:08:34

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hi mate whats your sail number give me a call i know lots about theas boats madmikwood@hotmail.co.uk
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

04 May 2006 11:31:07

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mine started life in the USA (sent out by container) but has been back in UK for 20 years - dunno how she got home!! great little ships - not fast, but safe, easy-going, and well built.
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

21 July 2006 08:51:17

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I have not a clue. The main sail has a red design which may be a dragon can't tell. Boat was neglected, but the bottom is solid as well as the deck. I need to repair the rudder and smooth out the bottom then paint it and the aluminum mast and boom. Would sure like the specs as the sails need replacing. I am going to attempt to restore the boat to good sailing condition and sail and explore the Sea of Cortez often called the Gulf of California. Did anyone come up with any rudder modifications? Looks a little light for the boat
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

23 August 2006 09:49:36

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built by thames marine (mine in 68), boat test on one in practical boat ownner not sure month or year. rudders i have seen on a couple of others were all different , i think the rudder could be bigger as the boat "slips" easy when over pressed. if you have or intend to fit a roller reefing gib check the pin on the top of the mast mine were to small for the job and sheared ouch i increased the size to 10 mill. good sea boat butd not fast. hope this helps good luck rod
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

17 October 2006 19:31:03

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I have owned my Snapdragon for 10 years and wouldn't part with it! I sail mostly the Chesapeake bay and just offshore of Virginia. Not fast but steady and reliable. It is a dragon on the main sail. Mine is a 1969 boat. They built about 200 of them on the Thames up until 1969. The first were 21 footers, later, after 69 they built 27's, but not considered as good as the earlier boats. Still popular and desireable because of their shallow draft and bilge keel design. On a reach I have exceeded 6 knots, and on a couple of daring stormy days when lots of other sailors didn't venture out I have made close to 8 knots. You probably have noticed the heavier rigging and extra stays. It pays off in the unexpected blows! My boat is all original, and I don't see any need to change a thing. I am considering electric auxiliary propulsion though. Good luck, and enjoy one of the better boats ever built!
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

25 March 2007 18:16:45

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Hi I live on the gulf cost of Florida and was offered a 26 foot snapdragon for free. How much do you think it would cost to fix it up? It needs painted in and out. Aslo a new sail.
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

jmkent

25 March 2007 20:27:44

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Cost to fix up..... depends if you are prepared to do the work for yourself.
Is the boat going to stay in the US, and hence US prices for work/items needed?

If it were in the UK:
- a new mainsail would be about 500 GBP
- antifoul about 50-100 GBP
- paint for the interior (depending on what you want) about 40-50 GBP
- labour (if you weren't doing it yourself) about 30-40 GBP per hour

I don't know how these prices correlate to prices in the US though.

If I were you, I'd question why it is offered for free..... is there more work required than just a lick of paint and a sail - I would think so, and a survey (about 300-400 GBP) would save a lot of trouble further down the line.

It might help to post some more details.
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

26 April 2007 23:26:46

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hi what else should we know about snap dragons''' what do they eat
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

05 May 2007 22:31:29

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Is your boat by any chance YELLOW? A friend of mine in St. Petersburg once had one of that hull colour. FREE is great, but you can certainly spend a lot of money getting a boat fixed up. Still, these are great boats that are safe and forgiving. I owned one for a number of years and sailed solo from Florida to Newfoundland.
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

17 May 2007 23:05:00

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just got snapdrago with lifting keel how many were built ..any problems i should know about
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

30 May 2007 21:26:50

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you can get all the information & technical details you could ever need by E.mailing - frank.watson4@ntlworld.com - he is the treasurer of the Snapdragon & Mirage Owners Assoc. here in the UK. I also have a snapdragon 26, which were built by, Thames Marine, here on Canvey Island, Essex, England, about 2 miles from where i live. some of my friends at the local yacht club were involved in the actual building of these fine boats. i've had hine for over 20 years & she,s still going strong.
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

31 May 2007 16:46:17

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I have also found the official assoc. e-mail address :
snapmirage@btinternet.com
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

11 June 2007 08:57:08

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We too have just become the new owners of a VERY sad Snapdragon 26.
She needs a lot of TLC to say nothing of the hard work to make her usable.
Any other owners out there ? It would be good to "chat"
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

19 June 2007 23:49:04

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where are you sailing from ,, mine will be out of poole harbour .. the lifting keel should be useful... any one have a second hand genoea...........
and still no one knows how many lifting keel versions were made ..

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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

01 July 2007 02:36:25

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Yes, I am also a fairly new owner of a similar Snapdragon - lots of work done this spring! Having lots of fun sailing her despite her appearance!!
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

08 October 2007 15:52:16

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The yellow hulled Snapdragon was my dad's. He added a couple of feet to the stern end to decrease the turbulence at the transom. At that time, he repainted the original light blue gelcoat hull with yellow Imron. He sold it around 1982.
Ken
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

14 October 2007 22:45:49

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Hi, I too have bought a snapdragon 26 recently (06) on isle of wight. She was in good condition with a new power unit. I've spent a lot of time and money refurbishing professionally and having her checked completely including new sat nav equipment. She's my retirement gift to myself! Having owned river boats for years I'm looking forward to new experiences under sail. She's moored in Cowes, IOW and I hope will cut a dash amongst todays lightweights! Well, I love her! I do have her original technical spec. should you be interested. Do let me know how you're doing with your Snap 26. Regards, Steve baumwebb@aol.com
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

17 October 2007 23:26:18

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steve is it bilge or fin ...
im sure u will have a lot of fun in her rob
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

23 October 2007 16:24:14

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I have owned a Snapdragon 26 for about 10 years and wouldn't part with her. It is very original and in fairly good shape. I sail the lower Chesapeake Bay, York river, Mobjack Bay in Virginia. When I retire, who knows where? The shallow draft of the bilge keels is perfect for the bays and rivers, and the robust hull design and rigging has withstood some of the harshest weather of the Chesapeake bay. I would like to hear from other Snapdragon owners stateside and UK. She is a wonderful boat to sail, but not fast. I'm in no hurry! e-mail me at cally101@verizon.net
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

31 October 2007 23:23:04

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Any one got a lifting keel ..
and any improvements to make it sail better to windward..
Mine tends to drop of almust 180 deg as soon as the speed drops..
tacking is fun... people must wonder where I m going.

Rob
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

12 November 2007 08:25:56

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I am Pedro who first posted these comments. I have read your comments and learned a lot, but I am sure there is more to it. I need to secure the rudder post at the base. Probably will use a delrin block of plastic with a hole drilled for the post and secured it to the metal U channel at the bottom of the skeg.. Has anyone modified or replaced the rudder? It is pretty small for the boat size. I have considered attaching a nextra fine to the rear of the rudder mage from .020" 304 stainless steel, but my gut tells me I may put to much pressure on the tiller. Pedro
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24

Anonymous user

23 November 2007 01:56:08

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Can anyone tell me where I can find more technical information on the Snapdragon 24 (or 747)? I am a new owner of one and want to learn more about it. It is a 1975 and is in really good shape!

Thanks,
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24

Anonymous user

03 December 2007 04:11:03

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What a sharp looking Snappie! I wonder if that navy blue is paint or original gel coat? Mine is a 26 (1969) vintage and not nearly as lovely looking! Good job!
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24

Anonymous user

03 December 2007 04:12:34

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Anyone in the USA - please share stories - I'm a fairly new owner of a fairly tired 26 foot Snappie - Thanks! Andrea
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24

Anonymous user

03 December 2007 19:42:21

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does it have to be from the us.... how many snappys are in the us any way
rob
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24

Anonymous user

14 December 2007 03:17:46

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The Navy Blue is paint, not gel coat. It does look nice.
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24

Anonymous user

14 December 2007 03:20:55

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The info certainly doesn't have to be from the US. I figure there are more resources outside the US for the Snapdragon. I have heard there are a number of the Snapdragons in the Virginia area where I live for use in the Chesapeake Bay area, but I haven't found any clubs in the US.
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24

Bobwale

02 January 2008 19:32:34

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Pedro
Are you still planning to modify your rudder. I have just come across this website but have owned a 26 since 98 and completely renovated it including new rudder/skeg etc - and I do mean completely i.e. gutting the interior and building a different layout. I have recently written an article about it for the Snapdragon and Mirage Owners Association which may be of use to you (just published in the autumn journal. Mine is a superb example now and I have some lovely pictures if interested. It is Sail No. 108 and is kept on the East Coast in the UK near to where they were originally built. I had no idea there were many in the US.
Regards
Bob
bob.wale@ntlworld.com
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24

Anonymous user

08 January 2008 21:22:53

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Hello Bob .. Saw your article in the mag you really have done loads of work (are you still married ???)
I am waiting for a none wet day to check my rudder but would make it larger and transom hung if the berth I have my boat in was for a longer boat .
I would also like to make the drop keel bigger if I could but there isn't much information on C of E and C of Resistance and what loads would be placed on it. Any way looking forward to a new seasoon

Rob
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24

Bobwale

09 January 2008 23:23:27

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Hi Rob
Yes I'm still married but it was a close call!
I dont know anything about the drop keel version of this boat really - most , including mine are bilge keel although my skeg position was always different to every other bilge keel 26 I've seen. Have you tried Mike Sheppard at the Association. That said, these boats very heavily built and I suspect a lot of "stuck it and see" was used in their design so I doubt you'll do it much harm if you can find a way to add a bit on to rudder and/or keel, and being plastic you can always chop it off again and make good if it doesn't work. The bigger rudder on mine transformed the performance and its none the worse for my beefed up skeg which adds tremendous strength (and peace of mind). I figured if it looked right it probably was right - and it was (Victorian engineering principles I'm told). Good luck.
Bob
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24

jmh2929

11 January 2008 15:24:24

Joined: 28 November 2006 20:27:53 | Posts: 7

Hi, I'm in the process of buying a 26 and may be looking to this site for advice etc in the future. I have read the PBO write up and it would appear that the bilge keeler is a bit short in the keel so giving a lot of leeway. Also rudder slip when over pressed. Anyone else find that?
I've been studying the feasibility of adding a few inches to the keels and skeg plus a bit more rudder. Just a thought at the moment but I need to know what's in the keels and how they're made up. If they are solid, extensions should be possible.
John
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24

Anonymous user

17 January 2008 20:37:50

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I used to have a Snappie 26 and another one in the club had keel extensions of about 6". What it gained in reduced leeway upwind it lost going downwind. Can't tell you how they were done but know it is possible.

Two things that need addressing are the main sheet traveller - you need some means of hauling the sheet up the track and a cam cleat to hold it there. Also the angle at which the the genoa sheets meet the winches. Another sheet guide is needed somewhere or perhaps dinghy type stand-up cars might help.

Solid as a rock.
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24

Anonymous user

18 January 2008 18:48:00

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Hello again ...
I like the if it looks right bit ...
I will have a look at the rudder and see how strong the attachments are .. on yours is it transom hung .. did you mahe the rudder deeper or wider...
Rob
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Bobwale

18 January 2008 20:51:25

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Rob
My rudder was transom hung when I got it but that was not originally the case. I built a new section level with the cockpit seats at the rear of the cockpit just forward of the stern locker where my rudder stock now emerges. There is a bearing there, another where it penetrates the hull and a third at the bottom of the extended skeg. If you Email me at bob.wale@ntlworld.com I could send you some pictures. I also videoed the work in progress so could put that onto a DVD for you if required. My rudder/skeg arrangement is completely non standard but works well.

JMH2929 - the keels are part of the moulding to the hull in GRP (very solid) and filled with lead shot ( except on some "Friday afternoon jobs" which were filled with what was handy or so I'm told.) Yes you should be able to and a bit on though I never bothered. A book called "The Fibreglass Boat Repair Manual" by Allan H. Vaites should tell you all you need to know should you want to take this on. It seems totally possible to me but the down wind performance will no doubt suffer from the increased drag, but then what fun is sailing down wind anyway?
Regards

Bob
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

06 February 2008 16:23:02

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Hi everyone, My dad recently passed away and i have a snapdragon boat which i need to sell as i do not have sea legs. I have tried some yaught brokers who do not seem interested in the boat because of its age. I was wondering if any of you people on here know who to contact or who would be able to sell my dads boat. The last broker who looked at it says it still has its original engine and he said he can not tell me what condition it is in unless i get it on dry dock. I do not understand the first thing about boats so I am looking for help from you please
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

12 February 2008 15:09:10

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interested in your boat. Please respond.
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

Anonymous user

14 February 2008 12:23:43

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Hi you can e-mail me at nicolabrierley@btopenworld.com
about my dads boat
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26

richard turner

16 February 2008 15:23:44

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I've just bought a snapdragon26 that had been out of the water for some years. I've recently put the sails back on having replaced all the halyards. Can someone please tell me weather the genoa sheets go on the outside or through the rigging back to the winches. I think its outside but the lee sheet gets snagged like that. Please help!
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Snapdragon 26 in Vancouver, Canada- mainsheet traveller?

Anonymous user

23 February 2008 03:28:35

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Hello all-

I have never sailed before but I bought this boat when I saw it. Found out later on the internet that it was a Snapdragon. I've been getting it ready to sail (worst part is a slow leak coming from somewhere... possibly propeller shaft stuffing box) but my most pressing problem is that I don't know what to attach (which blocks/pulleys, etc?) from the mainsail boom to the traveller (a steel cylinder about 1/2" in diameter).

Anybody have a picture or know what kind of parts I should be looking for?

Here's a picture of the boat when it was out of the water; I bought it moored and it's been floating (with the leak...) ever since.

Happy to have found this community and thread!

snolan26@hotmail.com
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Re: Snapdragon 26 in Vancouver, Canada- mainsheet traveller?

Mark Aplin

17 April 2008 10:46:39

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Hi all-

I have recently become the proud owner of a Snapdragon 24 and have spent the last two months refitting the interior and 'decorating'!
I am trying to get her back to original as possible but a lot of the rigging has been altered and I wondered, as after a lot of searching and not finding, if anyone could let me know of the whereabouts of a diagram. If anyone could help, either by email or a reply I would be most grateful.

Thanks in advance

Mark
Mark Aplin

Owner of Snapdragon 24 (Magic Dragon)
VWCamperfan@hotmail.co.uk
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Snapdragon 26 for sale

baumwebb

30 April 2008 06:40:53

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Hi, I've owned my Snapdragon 26 for 18 months and have had her refurbished professionally throughout. She's in wonderful condition with basically everything new from loo (unused) to seacocks, wiring, sails, rigging including new furling genoa (unused) and Nanni diesel. She's ready to sail and lying ashore on the Isle of Wight, GB, in a beautiful marina near Cowes (which has lots of new trot moorings). Its been a labour of love with no expense spared, she's the best! Reason for sale - my age!, lack of crew and a new project; a power boat. Email: baumwebb@aol.com for pictures and more details
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Re: Snapdragon 26 for sale

Anonymous user

03 July 2008 18:11:29

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Hello, I will buy a Snap.26 in the next 12 months but can only afford £5k max.
I have a empty mooring but there is no hurry for me to buy . Best wishes.
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Re: Snapdragon 26 for sale

Anonymous user

03 July 2008 18:29:48

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If still for sale I will buy a Snap.26 this year. I have a empty low cost mooring.
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Re: Snapdragon 26 for sale

Anonymous user

05 July 2008 17:31:19

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Anyone have a mast/boom ?
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Re: Snapdragon 26 for sale

Anonymous user

17 September 2008 20:58:13

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Hello-

Took a chance on some mainsheet travellers for around $75CDN and they work fine! Now I want to step the mast so that I can run a jib sheet up there (so far have only been able to use the mainsheet).

Anyone know how to step the mast? I've loosened the rigging and tried to budge the mast from it's step, but it doesn't want to move.

Something simple I'm missing?

Cheers-
Sean
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mast step

jmh2929

21 September 2008 21:09:43

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Mine sits in the tabernacle with a bolt through it. When the stays and shrouds are released, the mast is free to pivot backwards. Naturally it needs a lot of support. I use a pole which I made, it has a fork end and fits on to the mast bolt forming a right angle, a bit like a bowsprit or a spinny pole. This I attach to the fore halliard (8mm doubled) forming a triangle. Then I use a couple of double blocks and a winch giving 4 to 1 ratio (needs a long piece of rope). Someone to help take the weight of the mast as it reaches horisontal is a great help 'though it is possible solo (I do it)
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Re: mast step

Anonymous user

20 October 2008 13:05:13

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Hello, I am very interested in finding out more about your do it yourself mast stepping on a Snapdragon! I have a 26 and have to figure a way to do it myself since the marina costs are really high! thanks, Andrea
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Do it yourself mast stepping/unstepping of Snapdragon 26

VermontSnappie

21 October 2008 13:45:34

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Hello - previous post - Please help me find the best way for two people to manage the mast of our Snapdragon 26. So much is written on line with various techniques - I really want to hear from someone who has actually done it on the same type of boat. Thanks - Andrea
Andrea
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Re: Do it yourself mast stepping/unstepping of Snapdragon 26

Anonymous user

28 October 2008 13:16:43

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It's nice to see so many of the Snapdragons still about as I worked at the factory assembling these boats in the late 60's for about a year. From what I remember there was the Snapdragon 21, Snapdragon 23 (this was suppose to be the fast one which came with a drop keel), Snapdragon 26 and Snapdragon 30. They were built on a production line and from what I remember (40 years ago) it took about 4 to 5 days to complete each boat.
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Re: Do it yourself mast stepping/unstepping of Snapdragon 26

Anonymous user

31 October 2008 12:02:18

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Just for your information try , www.snapdragonmirage.org.uk its an owners asssociation and a very good site.
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Re: Do it yourself mast stepping/unstepping of Snapdragon 26

Anonymous user

07 January 2009 12:45:25

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Hi,

iám a german owner of one snapdragon 26.

The last owner removed complitly the elctric. Now iám looking for information about the electric in this boot.

Best regards

Heinz Bernhardt

aix-fan@web.de
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Re: Do it yourself mast stepping/unstepping of Snapdragon 26

Anonymous user

25 January 2009 22:10:33

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I have one here in New Zealand - I have no idea how it got here - she's called Midnight Blue - any theories anyone? A great little boat on the Hairaki Gulf.
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Re: Do it yourself mast stepping/unstepping of Snapdragon 26

Anonymous user

25 May 2009 07:18:41

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Mine was sailed across the Atlantic. I suspect if it went by sea it used the Suez canal to the Indian Ocean, howver she would fit niceley into a container. Delivery would be cheaper and faster.

Pedro
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Re: Do it yourself mast stepping/unstepping of Snapdragon 26

Anonymous user

15 June 2009 13:10:07

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http://www.snapdragonmirage.org.uk/

Hi this is a link to the snapdragon owners assocition. there is a technical officer linked to the group that might be able to give you detailed onfo on the snappy 26. hope this is of use.
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Re: Do it yourself mast stepping/unstepping of Snapdragon 26

Anonymous user

29 July 2009 12:15:20

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Im Intreastead. Please email me
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Re: Do it yourself mast stepping/unstepping of Snapdragon 26

Anonymous user

21 August 2009 02:06:12

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I just became the proud owner of a 1970 (69?) Snapdragon 26. Needs alot of cosmetic work, but she is sound and seaworthy. She sits in the water in Tampa Bay, Florida, USA.
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Re: Snapdragon 26 repair

Natural Chep

09 September 2009 05:01:54

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I am the new owner of the Snappy 26 in St. Pete. This is my first sailboat of any substancial size. I have always been told that the happiest days of a boat owner's life are the day you buy the boat and the day you sell it... I can start to feel the blues. I got a great deal on her which should have been my first warning. I also should have had her inspected or at least dove down to inspect her myself. Chalk it up as a learning experience.
After handing over the $800 cash and rushing down to transfer title, I decided to don my scuba gear and scrape the hull to get her ready to move. I was giddy with anticipation of opening the sails and seeing what she can do on my way to her new moor. After scraping about 1/3 of the hull I made my way in the mirky water to the rudder/skeg and my heart sank. The rudder was hanging loose with the back half of the rudder shoe missing from the skeg about 1/2 way across the shaft receiving hole. No opening the sails on this move, I guess!
I was planning to pull her out of the water for a bottom job but now I need to perform a skeg repair. I thought about the possibility of replacing the shoe with a heavy duty gudgeon, but I would really like to keep her all original if possible. I would like to get everything ready and fabricated if necessary before pulling her out so I can spend as little time in the yard as possible (funds are dangerously low). If anyone knows where I can get the schematics for replacing the shoe I would be in your debt. If anyone has done a repair on the skeg/rudder of a Snappy 26, your experience would be wonderful.
Any information that might help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Snapdragon 26 repair

Anonymous user

15 September 2009 01:51:36

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Are you still sailing on Chesapeake?
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Re: Snapdragon 26 repair

Anonymous user

23 September 2010 12:42:36

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I have just bought one and have joined the Snapdragon Association as I understand that you can get all the technical details from them if you are a member.
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Re: Do it yourself mast stepping/unstepping of Snapdragon 26

Anonymous user

23 September 2010 19:37:50

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I have one here in New Zealand - I have no idea how it got here - she's called Midnight Blue - any theories anyone? A great little boat on the Hauraki Gulf.


I ran into an old bloke at the Marina who says mine was sailed to New Zealand from England " by some crazy Pom" about 20 years ago. If that's true - they're obviously a pretty good blue water boat.
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Re: Do it yourself mast stepping/unstepping of Snapdragon 26

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09 October 2010 22:45:54

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Hi I am a proud owner of a Snapdragon 21 sail number 15 built in 1973. Bought in March this year, anti fouled her prior to delivery as she had to go straight on to her moorings. Spruced her up a bit and got out sailing on her, will paint her up properly next year. I am surprised how stable she is and quite fast too.... Mine is a bilge keel with skeg rudder with the inboard outboard well, which is very handy indeed.

My first ever sail boat bought off e-bay, I might ad... The lay up of glass fiber is amazing!!! An inch and a half thick in places!!!!

I can believe that these great boats could sail anywhere, they are safe, strong and extremely easy to handle single handed and the cabin and cockpit are so roomy for such a small yacht.

Amazing to think that my one cost £2200 new back in 1973. In my club in Kent we have a couple of snappy owners other than myself and they would not part with theirs either....

I wish all you Happy Snappers, Happy sailing!!!!
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Re: New Snapdragon 21 owner

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10 October 2010 21:14:12

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You are right indeed about the sailing characteristics and seaworthiness of these boats. I had an SD26 from 1984-1992 and sailed her from Florida to Newfoundland.

Not the fastest boat in the world, but very sweet-handling, forgiving, etc. Can be very exhilarating downwind in a strong breeze, set "wing and wing."

Enjoy your boat!

Dan
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Re: New Snapdragon 21 owner

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29 October 2010 14:34:07

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I have just bought one and have been told I need a boom vang. Can anyone give me details of what I want or where I can get it please. I joined the Snapdragon Association and have tried getting the question put on their site but have had no reply.
The other query is the cockpit drains which do not work very well. I want to know if they should cross over before they go out the back through the transom. It seems a very flat run for the water and does not look right to me. So I need to know what other Snapdragons have got.
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Re: New Snapdragon 21 owner

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29 October 2010 23:43:13

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As far as cockpit drains go, I'm not sure of the configuration on the SD 21. BUT, this is a fairly simple matter and you can look at and do what makes sense. As a rule, cockpit drains cross to the opposite side, but it depends on the design of the boat--has do with height above waterline, what happens when the boat heels, etc. The usual goal is to prevent water from ENTERING the cockpit through the drain when the boat is heeled over. So, look at, and just rerig it in a way that works.

Boom vangs also depend on the configuration of the boat--in particular, the boom. On my old SD 26, I had a boom vang that clipped into the top slot of the boom--it had two flat, broad half-moon shaped stainless steel pieces with a lip at the top (which went into the sail slot of the boom, on either side of the mainsail) and at the bottom, there was a slot for wide webbing to go through, which was led down to a tackle arrangement. All that was due to the fact that I had a roller-reefing main. If you have wisely converted to slab or jiffy reefing, then you can just by the hardward necessary to make your own boom vang. You'll need two strong pad eyes--one for the underneath side of the boom and one for the deck near the back side of the mast base. I have also seen the lower eye mounted to the back side of the mast. To each pad eye, you attach a double block--the top one should have a becket, the bottom one should have a jam cleat. Run a suitable-sized line (for your size boat, 5/16" or 3/8" should be okay) through the blocks and you have a boom vang. You can also buy them pre-made, but sometimes you can save a bit of money by putting together your own. Price it out both ways.

Dan
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Re: New Snapdragon 21 owner

Anonymous user

30 October 2010 13:05:26

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Thank you for that, I'll act on your advise
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Re: New Snapdragon 21 owner

Anonymous user

30 October 2010 14:29:11

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Its a snapdragon 26 not a 21. I don't know if that makes any difference to the rope size on the boom vang
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Re: Snapdragon 26 boom vang

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30 October 2010 15:26:53

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3/8" line should be fine for a 26; I think before I said 7/16", and believe I meant 5/16". I probably wouldn't go down to that (5/16") on a 26. The real factor to achieve is mechanical advantage ("purchase").

You may also want to consider a rigid vang, but I like the simplicity of a simple block and tackle arrangement--which you can use for other chores around the boat in a pinch.

Here's an affordable line to consider:

http://www.mauriprosailing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=MPS&Category_Code=GARBV

I think the Series 30 would be more than adequate.
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Re: Snapdragon 26 boom vang

Anonymous user

31 October 2010 22:51:59

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Thanks for that Dan. I've looked on the site and it seems pretty good.
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Re: Snapdragon 26 boom vang

Anonymous user

02 November 2010 21:58:45

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Does anyone know of the wherabouts of TODACUS ? I last saw her ashore in Essex Marina looking very sorry for herself. We owned her fro 1974 to 1989, she then had a red hull and was named PISCES. We loved her very much and werwe sad to see her looking so neglected
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Re: Snapdragon 26 boom vang

Anonymous user

28 April 2011 21:21:55

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i own a 26 , sail number 7
love it
really good boats
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Re: Snapdragon 26 boom vang

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29 April 2011 15:43:32

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our 26 was reputed to be the first built and the Earls court boat show model so she would have an early sail no, but in our photos it shows 158 on the sail. We did meet the bulder in Burnham on Crouch who told us where the plate was located with info on it, he was correct and he also said Pisces was the1968 model at Earls Court.. Glad you like your 26, they were brilliant but slow boats but in terms of design and build were before their time.
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Re: Snapdragon 26 boom vang

Anonymous user

19 May 2011 08:40:43

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DO YOU STILL OWN IT ?
MINE WAS MADE IN 1966 NOT TOTALLY ORIGINAL , BUT STILL GOING STRONG
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Re: Snapdragon 26 boom vang

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20 May 2011 11:23:11

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I have a Snapdragon 26 and on the paperwork it says 'Works number 96'.
She is still going strong, keeps needing a few repairs but hull and topsides very good and really solid. I hit a wooden jetty whilst thinking I was in neutral and expected a mark on the bow, but there was no mark and a big chunk out of the jetty.
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Snapdragon 26

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16 June 2011 07:30:17

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I am an Australian yachtsman with a Snapdragon 26 moored in the UK. I use it when I am there. Sail Number 49. Bought it at Harwich. Tidied it up at Harry King's Yard, Pin MIll. Sailed it around the coast one-up to Chichester Harbour. Great little yacht. A bit different to my 40-footer in Sydney but great for English coastal waters. The Perkins Perama diesel which many years ago replaced the Stuart Turner inboard, is a great little engine. The Snapdragon is my 22nd yacht. Has worked out well for an old guy pottering around on the other side of the world!
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Re: Snapdragon 26

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16 June 2011 07:35:04

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ive done that too
left quite a dent in the pontoon
minor scrape on the bow
good to know theres a few still sailing tho
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Re: Snapdragon 26

Anonymous user

16 June 2011 07:38:31

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great to hear
im based at chatham marina
on the medway in kent
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Re: Snapdragon 26

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14 July 2011 17:42:27

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Mark Alfred Steele - Victoria,B.C. Canada , 250-384-3396
How did your fun thing go?
Still trying to sell the dear?
Call me.
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Re: Snapdragon 26

Ralf

18 July 2011 16:05:08

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I have question to you.
i woud like bay Snap. 26. I have not big experiences with sailing. Sou it have been clear oll for mee, but I have stoped on one question et last. It is about quells, it is verdical not oblique like for egzemple on Westerly. Sou sameone have sed me that it work different upwind. What is it this difrents. Have it maybee positive said too, this quells verdical ?

I woud like took more. If you can give me your phone fix I can cool widaunt problems.

Ralf

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Re: Snapdragon 26 repair

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03 October 2011 12:37:58

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I have just bought one and have joined the Snapdragon Association as I understand that you can get all the technical details from them if you are a member.
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Re: Snapdragon 26 repair

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03 October 2011 12:39:10

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I have just bought one and have joined the Snapdragon Association as I understand that you can get all the technical details from them if you are a member.
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Re: Snapdragon 26 repair can anyone tell me how to replace my tabernacle as te 44 long screws are si

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03 October 2011 12:41:09

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I have just bought one and have joined the Snapdragon Association as I understand that you can get all the technical details from them if you are a member.
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