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eleven plus sailing dinghy

debenman

17 August 2009 16:36:42

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Has anyone heard of this class of boat. GRP with wooden spars and plenty of built in bouyancy. With a mast as long as it has it looks like it might be called into action! This one is No. 628 so someone must have knowledge of this class(built in Derbyshire) and yet google is remarkably silent on the subject. Is this the last example of it's ilk? Looks good, would like to buy but also would like to know a little about it before hand.
Thanks
bodger
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Anonymous user

24 August 2009 14:34:15

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So I am not alone! I have had a sailing dinghy for years that I have just got round to putting on the water, and apart from the insignia 11+ on the sail I had no idea of the class. As you say not a lot on Google, but I traced it through the sail makers. Mine is wooden with sail no. 546. They were designed in 1956 by Eric Parlain and are similar to the Gull.
My first sail showed her to be stable and easy to handle

Chris
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debenman

27 August 2009 09:55:51

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Thanks for that but sadly I dithered too long and it went. Do you sail it on a river of reservoir/lake as I was intrigued as to why it had such a tall mast. I should have just bought it and made the enquiries afterwards. Wonder how many of them still exist.
bodger
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Anonymous user

21 September 2009 08:51:46

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Took mine out on the river yesterday. She is very rsponsive in light winds. Can take two adults or easy to sail single handed - mast moves forward and just use the main.
Built in side buoyancy looks a pig to repair if timber rots, which might explain why ythere doesn't appear to be many still around. Mine has no sign of decay though and seems original which is good for 60 + years
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Anonymous user

21 September 2009 17:57:32

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Glad that you are enjoying it! Only even more miffed now that I didn't buy it whilst it was for sail. Do you sail on an inland lake or the coast/river? Some nice weather at the moment over here in east Anglia. Don't know where you are but hope the weather is good there, as well.
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Anonymous user

21 September 2009 17:59:55

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Sorry, you did say river! I'm going bonkers here waiting for Dell tech support. What river do you sail on. We sail on the Deben which is a rather attractive waterway.
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Anonymous user

27 September 2009 14:02:46

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I have one- and you can have it for a reasoable donation to the RNLI- with a trailer thrown in-you would need to collect from near wrexham north wales-I have not time to maintain it and it is a pity top let it fall apart if you would be able to restore it and cherish it- it's painted orange and white and the transom is a little weak at the top- sails are a bit sad- I sometimes use the rig on my seafly when on the river in chester as the shorter mast gives tree clearance.
I learnt to sail in it- do not know how really! Eleven plus because it was in theory eleven feet and one inch, and was possible to put on car roof but not a modern car because roof is much thinner! Please introduce yourself and your interest in this boat
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Anonymous user

03 October 2009 13:50:34

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We have recently acquired No.507 but have also found very little information available. We hope to restore her over the winter and take her out next summer.
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debenman

05 October 2009 10:56:50

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Sounds good but Wrexham is a bit of a way from Felixstowe but maybe, if someone else hasn't gobbled it up, may come that way in the ancient camper van, next year. I am sure someone closer will snap it up as they seem to be a good little boat. Thanks

Bodger
bodger
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Anonymous user

05 October 2009 19:04:22

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debenman wrote:Sounds good but Wrexham is a bit of a way from Felixstowe but maybe, if someone else hasn't gobbled it up, may come that way in the ancient camper van, next year. I am sure someone closer will snap it up as they seem to be a good little boat. Thanks

Bodger
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Anonymous user

05 October 2009 19:07:11

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It's still here -high and dry-note my contact number 01978 760065 in case you pass near next year
BG
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Anonymous user

27 October 2009 11:00:18

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Hi
My father designed the Eleven plus. His name was Eric Parkin not Parlain. The boat was designed for my brother when he was 11 and was half an inch over 11ft.

At the time my father ran Kitboats as a part of ESA (a firm making educational equipment) and the boat was sold in kit form which could be built at home without stocks or moulds- the roll down decking being preformed.

Somewhere I have some of the original documents about the boats and if you would like to contact me on salemoore@googlemail.com I will try to let you have some more information.

Good to here that some of the boats are still going strong.
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Anonymous user

30 October 2009 08:39:24

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Great to here from someone who was actually connected to the designer. Will reply more fully when I have more time, thanks.
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Anonymous user

03 December 2009 17:02:49

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My father bought an 11+ in kit form in 1958 (ish) unfotrtunately didnt quite get round to finish it.

The hull sits at the bottom of my garden looking quite sad.

I would happly give it to any one keen enough to finish it and get it in the water, I have the plans available.

It will need somone dedicated as there is alot of work. Photographs available
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Anonymous user

04 December 2009 06:55:50

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If you could let me know what else you have with the kit and what state the hull is in and, mmost importantly, where you are in the UK, I might well be interested.
My email address is:
jacobsc@btinternet.com
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Anonymous user

04 December 2009 12:04:22

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I have e mailed you separately from Wrexham- just to add I would reckon that you could sail my old 11 plus with less than 16 hours work, obviosly using a reasonably safe sailing area until you get used to her

B Graham
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Anonymous user

25 March 2010 00:16:36

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I've got an Eleven Plus - sail number 15 so an early example. It's in good condition with all its bits and I've got someone interested in buying it. Any clues as to its value?
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Anonymous user

25 March 2010 09:42:33

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No but I could tell you who its first owner was and what it cost new.

Sally Moore
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Anonymous user

25 March 2010 09:47:58

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I'm intrigued - was it a kit or ready built? Where did it first live? I bought it in Cornwall in about 1985
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Anonymous user

25 March 2010 11:16:19

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11+ no 15 was sold in kit form with cotton sails in 1958
Her original owner was Mr E. H. Smart of Rochester, Kent.
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Anonymous user

05 May 2010 12:24:59

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Hi bodger. Just read your reference to 11+ 628. I commisioned the boat from Dobsons of Shardlow in 1968 and owned her for 25 years. Sailed her mainly inland but also at Torbay, Fowey and Salcombe. I think you missed the chance of owning a very fine sailboat!! Do you know who bought her and where she's located now?

Captain Birdseye
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Anonymous user

18 May 2010 14:41:54

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we have eleven plus for sale being storage for 8 year but in good condition on a trailer but no sails email if anyone is interested
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Anonymous user

18 May 2010 15:47:11

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Which part of the country are you in, please?
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Anonymous user

18 May 2010 16:03:06

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cambridge
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Anonymous user

07 June 2010 17:05:57

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eleven plus sailing dinghy for sale if anyone interested
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Stombringer

26 June 2010 21:42:26

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Eleven plus, sail number 290 alive and well in Southport,bought her with all original paperwork including plans. Good to see so many out there, we are not alone.
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Anonymous user

02 August 2010 09:48:40

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I AM JUST FINISHING A RE-BUILD OF AN 11+ NUMBER 511 AND LOVE TO HEAR FROM ANY ONE ABOUT THE BOAT.dOES ANYONE HAVE SOME PLANS ALSO? i plan to get her wet in a couple of weeks on the river Stour and would like some advise regarding the stability etc due to the bean and height of sail.
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Anonymous user

02 August 2010 09:56:27

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Hi
I am in France at the moment but when I get back to the UK in September I plan to scan in any info I can and put it online.

Sally Moore
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Anonymous user

07 August 2010 21:14:24

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HI Chris here again. I commented on this forum a year ago. We are moving next year, so my eleven plus is for sale.
If interested contact me at chris.manning273@btinternet.com
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Anonymous user

15 August 2010 11:57:59

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Greetings from Durban, South Africa.

I also have a Plus, sail number 28+. I bought it from a guy 1 year ago is a bad condition and renovated it to sailing condition.

I firstly battled to find out what type of boat that was, and luckely one of the older guys at the club identified it for me.

I notice the comments from the forum refers to the boats being build in plywood, although mine is GRP / fibreglass.

Please send me a photo / information of what the hull/ boat looks like so that I can be sure that my boat is a plus.

Note that I was only able to trace 2x boats in durban so far, so the class seems to be getting less.This is sad.

Most intersting information found on this website, thanks.

My e-mail is jean.rindel@dpw.gov.za
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Anonymous user

15 August 2010 18:46:03

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The Plus was a later version of the Eleven Plus built in fibreglass/grp . I will find more info when I return to UK in a few weeks time.

Sally Moore
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Anonymous user

16 August 2010 14:58:39

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Thanks Sally.

I assumed that the fibre boats may have come later.

I am looking forward to hear from you again about the additional info.

I also intend to corespond to SAILING magazine (old SA Sailing) about the Plus and it's history in order to find out if there are any more active Plus sailors in SA. This should be intersting and will share all info that I get my hands on.

Will continue to view the site.
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Anonymous user

16 August 2010 15:46:29

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I know that amongst the papers about the boats I have a copy of the brochure for the Fibreglass Plus which was built after my father had stopped working for Kitboats who provided the kits and fully built ply Eleven plus. I think the fibreglass version was made by a firm called Dobsons or Dobson Marine. I don't know if they still exist.
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Anonymous user

16 August 2010 15:52:15

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eleven plus wooden sailing boat for sale needs new sails otherwise in good condition on trailer ready to go email if interested 1jcarter@tiscali.co.uk
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Adam123

01 October 2010 21:09:36

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Hi, do you still have the kit and are there sails with it?
I am looking for a set for an 11 plus if anyone has any.
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Anonymous user

02 October 2010 12:01:25

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I have scanned in one of the early Eleven Plus brochures. Hopefully you can view it here

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/SalEMoore/ElevenPlusBrochure?feat=directlink

Sally
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Anonymous user

02 October 2010 12:02:23

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I shall gradually add more information
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Anonymous user

02 October 2010 12:18:35

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http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/SalEMoore/11plusMeasurementForm?feat=directlink

This is the measurement form which may help those of you who need sails. I do have a sail plan but it is too big to scan in.
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Anonymous user

02 October 2010 12:40:41

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http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/SalEMoore/EarlyElevenPlusBrochuresAndPriceListFrom...

Early brochure and price list which is rather amusing.

If there is any particular information you need please let me know and i will see if I can find it.

Sally Moore
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Anonymous user

02 October 2010 12:56:22

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Article from 1957 Yachts and Yachting

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/SalEMoore/EarlyElevenPlusBrochuresAndPriceListFrom...
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Anonymous user

09 September 2011 15:53:35

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I guess this forum has gone a little cold but just in case some still look, here goes.
Back around 1960-2 my step mother owned an 11+ bourght for her by my Dad as he had a Flying Dutchman and I had an Enterprise.
She could sail but did not use it much. There were several 11+'s in the club at that time, the Maylandsea Bay Y C, and the club agreed to hold a National Championship I think the first.
My stepmum had me helm and she crewed. We won all the races that weekend including a single handed race, which formed part of the championship.
Happy to sort out more if anyone is interested,
Kindest regards to all John Stevens
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Anonymous user

09 September 2011 16:22:38

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Good to hear more 11+ stories. I expect my brother was racing-perhaps my father too.

Sally Moore (nee Parkin)
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Anonymous user

10 September 2011 09:02:50

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Hi,
I will talk to my Stepmum to see if we have any photos of the event, it is just possible we may still have the trophy, I will do some digging.
All this of course is some time ago, I was born in 1935 and details are harder for me to remember!
regards John
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Anonymous user

10 September 2011 09:14:00

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Hi. I'm just about finishing my rebuild of 511 eleven plus. Have you got any diagrams for the keel pin pivot mechanism as I didn't take note of it when I took it apart.
Thanks
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Anonymous user

10 September 2011 10:45:35

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I will look to see if I have anything about the pin. I remember the centreboard had a notch so that it could be lifted out rather than just pivoted.
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Anonymous user

25 September 2011 11:05:41

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Would any one have an 11+ for sale in the south of England condition not important as I would like the restore/renovate one for myself and my son to sail in fareham creek next year. Regards stuart
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dianoce

02 October 2011 05:58:40

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Anonymous user

03 October 2011 12:12:56

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Hi Stuart, I have an 11 + Dinghy for sale.It is complete but needs tidying.I would want £150 for it but there is no trailer and I am in Norfolk.Adam.
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Anonymous user

08 October 2011 12:41:24

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Hello adam thanks for reply it sounds ideal but I am looking for one a bit closer to me (near Portsmouth)as I would have to borrow a van to pick it up.
Regards stuart
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Anonymous user

03 November 2011 10:44:55

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My goodness - the names I can find on the web. I used to sail at Maylandsea Bay with the Stevens family - if John is reading this - hello. My Dad was Treasurer of MBYC but we had a Fleetwind - there was always great rivalry between the Fleetwind and the 11+. I crewed the FD with John Stevens father for two summers - it nearly tore my hands off - but a great experience. David and Paul Stevens were great rivals in all sorts of boats - especially later in the Flying Junior.
I am currently involved in putting together a narrative story for the National Maritime Museum about "my life with dinghies" for an event next summer. I sailed an 11+ with a doctor friend of my Dad's - it was great fun and very lively.
If there are any photos available of the early 1960's 11+ or Fleetwind racing, then the NMM would love to use them.....my e-mail is jfkyachts@btinternet.com
Amazing.
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Anonymous user

03 November 2011 14:56:20

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Someone from the past who knew all the family as it was then. Apart from Dad we are all still up and running.

I reminded my stepmum to dig out the old photos she might have for the 11+ today.

I have emailed to you as am at a loss as to who you are?

kindest regards John Stevens
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Anonymous user

16 January 2012 20:06:06

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I used to sail 11+, no. 117, off Sheerness on the Isle of Sheppey back in the '60s. Great little dinghy, greatly undervalued. Could knock the pants off a Mirror. Loved it dearly and would love to know if it's still around. Is there one for sale?
Mike Firth
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Anonymous user

17 January 2012 21:32:43

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currently looking at rebuilding my one which was originally built by my grandfather as got rather neglected after it got pushed ove ron its trailer and holed. main question is weather the hull sheets are made from one length of ply or two as can see a differnce between the foward and aft sections but cant see how they are joined. also does anyone know how hard it is to reform the curves without a large steamer.
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Anonymous user

26 January 2012 18:53:20

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Hi,
I have one free to a good home if anyone is interested, hull, mast, foils, plans but no sails.
Steve
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Anonymous user

26 January 2012 21:20:32

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I'd be looking for an 11+ that's good to go rather than needing restoration. Still interesred to know if 117 is about
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Anonymous user

04 March 2012 19:14:02

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I have 171 in exceptional condition with trailor and posh sails...and its for sale!
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Anonymous user

04 March 2012 19:15:59

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I have 171 in exception condition with posh sails and trailor and she's for sale!
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Anonymous user

05 March 2012 20:38:21

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Please send me details
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Anonymous user

05 March 2012 20:39:24

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Please send me details - mikej.firth@tiscali.co.uk
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Anonymous user

08 March 2012 09:44:56

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Hi Mike:

I will go and take some pics and report back.....shes newly nurtured and painted and in a nice airy barn on her trailor on bricks...lovely and dry!
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Anonymous user

07 April 2012 23:17:38

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Hi All,

I have sail number 248 in Chester sailing club, I bought it for my daughter who is now 26. It spent about ten years winched to the rafters in the garage. It looks all original but has a couple of fibreglass patches. It goes well for its age,I guess from this thread it is about, 1965 and still giving pleasure on the water,

Keith
keithahargreaves@hotmail.co.uk
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Anonymous user

08 April 2012 09:49:07

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Hello all,I am still looking for an eleven plus to do up and sail
I would Los to get one around the Hampshire/Dorset/Sussex area
As I don't have a tow bar.
Regards stuart
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Anonymous user

08 April 2012 19:28:20

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11+ 171, please email me on mikej.firth@tiscali.co.uk. Mike Firth
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Anonymous user

29 April 2012 13:04:05

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There is an 11+ for sale on Ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sailing-Dinghy-11-part-Restored-Trailer-/251050536587?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Sailing_Boats_ET&hash=item3a73c72e8b#ht_500wt_1284
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