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10 March 2006 00:18:55 |
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SNAPDRAGON 26
I RECENTLY PURCHASED AND OLD SNAPDRAGON 26 AND THIS IS MY FIRST BILGE KEEL BOAT. NOT NEW TO SAILING,BUT THERE SEEMS LITTLE DATA AVAILABLE ON THIS DESIGN AND WISH TO FIND OUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BEFORE TAKING HER OUT OF THE WATER AND TRANSPORTING HER TO THE WEST COAST OF MEXICO. ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND OUT ABOUT TIS BOAT?
THANKS
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Anonymous user
31 March 2006 00:43:20 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
email me at sales@hobbystation.net i have one this is a good Boat simon
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Anonymous user
16 April 2006 01:08:34 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
hi mate whats your sail number give me a call i know lots about theas boats madmikwood@hotmail.co.uk
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Anonymous user
04 May 2006 11:31:07 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
mine started life in the USA (sent out by container) but has been back in UK for 20 years - dunno how she got home!! great little ships - not fast, but safe, easy-going, and well built.
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Anonymous user
21 July 2006 08:51:17 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
I have not a clue. The main sail has a red design which may be a dragon can't tell. Boat was neglected, but the bottom is solid as well as the deck. I need to repair the rudder and smooth out the bottom then paint it and the aluminum mast and boom. Would sure like the specs as the sails need replacing. I am going to attempt to restore the boat to good sailing condition and sail and explore the Sea of Cortez often called the Gulf of California. Did anyone come up with any rudder modifications? Looks a little light for the boat
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Anonymous user
23 August 2006 09:49:36 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
built by thames marine (mine in 68), boat test on one in practical boat ownner not sure month or year. rudders i have seen on a couple of others were all different , i think the rudder could be bigger as the boat "slips" easy when over pressed. if you have or intend to fit a roller reefing gib check the pin on the top of the mast mine were to small for the job and sheared ouch i increased the size to 10 mill. good sea boat butd not fast. hope this helps good luck rod
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Anonymous user
17 October 2006 19:31:03 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
I have owned my Snapdragon for 10 years and wouldn't part with it! I sail mostly the Chesapeake bay and just offshore of Virginia. Not fast but steady and reliable. It is a dragon on the main sail. Mine is a 1969 boat. They built about 200 of them on the Thames up until 1969. The first were 21 footers, later, after 69 they built 27's, but not considered as good as the earlier boats. Still popular and desireable because of their shallow draft and bilge keel design. On a reach I have exceeded 6 knots, and on a couple of daring stormy days when lots of other sailors didn't venture out I have made close to 8 knots. You probably have noticed the heavier rigging and extra stays. It pays off in the unexpected blows! My boat is all original, and I don't see any need to change a thing. I am considering electric auxiliary propulsion though. Good luck, and enjoy one of the better boats ever built!
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Anonymous user
25 March 2007 18:16:45 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
Hi I live on the gulf cost of Florida and was offered a 26 foot snapdragon for free. How much do you think it would cost to fix it up? It needs painted in and out. Aslo a new sail.
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 | | jmkent
25 March 2007 20:27:44 |
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Joined: February 2007
Location: Cornwall, United Kingdom
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
Cost to fix up..... depends if you are prepared to do the work for yourself.
Is the boat going to stay in the US, and hence US prices for work/items needed?
If it were in the UK:
- a new mainsail would be about 500 GBP
- antifoul about 50-100 GBP
- paint for the interior (depending on what you want) about 40-50 GBP
- labour (if you weren't doing it yourself) about 30-40 GBP per hour
I don't know how these prices correlate to prices in the US though.
If I were you, I'd question why it is offered for free..... is there more work required than just a lick of paint and a sail - I would think so, and a survey (about 300-400 GBP) would save a lot of trouble further down the line.
It might help to post some more details.
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Anonymous user
26 April 2007 23:26:46 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
hi what else should we know about snap dragons''' what do they eat
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Anonymous user
05 May 2007 22:31:29 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
Is your boat by any chance YELLOW? A friend of mine in St. Petersburg once had one of that hull colour. FREE is great, but you can certainly spend a lot of money getting a boat fixed up. Still, these are great boats that are safe and forgiving. I owned one for a number of years and sailed solo from Florida to Newfoundland.
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Anonymous user
17 May 2007 23:05:00 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
just got snapdrago with lifting keel how many were built ..any problems i should know about
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Anonymous user
30 May 2007 21:26:50 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
you can get all the information & technical details you could ever need by E.mailing - frank.watson4@ntlworld.com - he is the treasurer of the Snapdragon & Mirage Owners Assoc. here in the UK. I also have a snapdragon 26, which were built by, Thames Marine, here on Canvey Island, Essex, England, about 2 miles from where i live. some of my friends at the local yacht club were involved in the actual building of these fine boats. i've had hine for over 20 years & she,s still going strong.
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Anonymous user
31 May 2007 16:46:17 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
I have also found the official assoc. e-mail address :
snapmirage@btinternet.com
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Anonymous user
11 June 2007 08:57:08 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
We too have just become the new owners of a VERY sad Snapdragon 26.
She needs a lot of TLC to say nothing of the hard work to make her usable.
Any other owners out there ? It would be good to "chat"
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Anonymous user
19 June 2007 23:49:04 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
where are you sailing from ,, mine will be out of poole harbour .. the lifting keel should be useful... any one have a second hand genoea...........
and still no one knows how many lifting keel versions were made ..
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Anonymous user
01 July 2007 02:36:25 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
Yes, I am also a fairly new owner of a similar Snapdragon - lots of work done this spring! Having lots of fun sailing her despite her appearance!!
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Anonymous user
08 October 2007 15:52:16 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
The yellow hulled Snapdragon was my dad's. He added a couple of feet to the stern end to decrease the turbulence at the transom. At that time, he repainted the original light blue gelcoat hull with yellow Imron. He sold it around 1982.
Ken
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Anonymous user
14 October 2007 22:45:49 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
Hi, I too have bought a snapdragon 26 recently (06) on isle of wight. She was in good condition with a new power unit. I've spent a lot of time and money refurbishing professionally and having her checked completely including new sat nav equipment. She's my retirement gift to myself! Having owned river boats for years I'm looking forward to new experiences under sail. She's moored in Cowes, IOW and I hope will cut a dash amongst todays lightweights! Well, I love her! I do have her original technical spec. should you be interested. Do let me know how you're doing with your Snap 26. Regards, Steve baumwebb@aol.com
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Anonymous user
17 October 2007 23:26:18 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
steve is it bilge or fin ...
im sure u will have a lot of fun in her rob
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Anonymous user
23 October 2007 16:24:14 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
I have owned a Snapdragon 26 for about 10 years and wouldn't part with her. It is very original and in fairly good shape. I sail the lower Chesapeake Bay, York river, Mobjack Bay in Virginia. When I retire, who knows where? The shallow draft of the bilge keels is perfect for the bays and rivers, and the robust hull design and rigging has withstood some of the harshest weather of the Chesapeake bay. I would like to hear from other Snapdragon owners stateside and UK. She is a wonderful boat to sail, but not fast. I'm in no hurry! e-mail me at cally101@verizon.net
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Anonymous user
31 October 2007 23:23:04 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
Any one got a lifting keel ..
and any improvements to make it sail better to windward..
Mine tends to drop of almust 180 deg as soon as the speed drops..
tacking is fun... people must wonder where I m going.
Rob
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Anonymous user
12 November 2007 08:25:56 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
I am Pedro who first posted these comments. I have read your comments and learned a lot, but I am sure there is more to it. I need to secure the rudder post at the base. Probably will use a delrin block of plastic with a hole drilled for the post and secured it to the metal U channel at the bottom of the skeg.. Has anyone modified or replaced the rudder? It is pretty small for the boat size. I have considered attaching a nextra fine to the rear of the rudder mage from .020" 304 stainless steel, but my gut tells me I may put to much pressure on the tiller. Pedro
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Anonymous user
23 November 2007 01:56:08 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24
Can anyone tell me where I can find more technical information on the Snapdragon 24 (or 747)? I am a new owner of one and want to learn more about it. It is a 1975 and is in really good shape!
Thanks,
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Anonymous user
03 December 2007 04:11:03 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24
What a sharp looking Snappie! I wonder if that navy blue is paint or original gel coat? Mine is a 26 (1969) vintage and not nearly as lovely looking! Good job!
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Anonymous user
03 December 2007 04:12:34 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24
Anyone in the USA - please share stories - I'm a fairly new owner of a fairly tired 26 foot Snappie - Thanks! Andrea
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Anonymous user
03 December 2007 19:42:21 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24
does it have to be from the us.... how many snappys are in the us any way
rob
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Anonymous user
14 December 2007 03:17:46 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24
The Navy Blue is paint, not gel coat. It does look nice.
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Anonymous user
14 December 2007 03:20:55 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24
The info certainly doesn't have to be from the US. I figure there are more resources outside the US for the Snapdragon. I have heard there are a number of the Snapdragons in the Virginia area where I live for use in the Chesapeake Bay area, but I haven't found any clubs in the US.
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Bobwale
02 January 2008 19:32:34 |
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Joined: January 2008
Location: United Kingdom
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24
Pedro
Are you still planning to modify your rudder. I have just come across this website but have owned a 26 since 98 and completely renovated it including new rudder/skeg etc - and I do mean completely i.e. gutting the interior and building a different layout. I have recently written an article about it for the Snapdragon and Mirage Owners Association which may be of use to you (just published in the autumn journal. Mine is a superb example now and I have some lovely pictures if interested. It is Sail No. 108 and is kept on the East Coast in the UK near to where they were originally built. I had no idea there were many in the US.
Regards
Bob
bob.wale@ntlworld.com
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Anonymous user
08 January 2008 21:22:53 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24
Hello Bob .. Saw your article in the mag you really have done loads of work (are you still married ???)
I am waiting for a none wet day to check my rudder but would make it larger and transom hung if the berth I have my boat in was for a longer boat .
I would also like to make the drop keel bigger if I could but there isn't much information on C of E and C of Resistance and what loads would be placed on it. Any way looking forward to a new seasoon
Rob
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Bobwale
09 January 2008 23:23:27 |
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Location: United Kingdom
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24
Hi Rob
Yes I'm still married but it was a close call!
I dont know anything about the drop keel version of this boat really - most , including mine are bilge keel although my skeg position was always different to every other bilge keel 26 I've seen. Have you tried Mike Sheppard at the Association. That said, these boats very heavily built and I suspect a lot of "stuck it and see" was used in their design so I doubt you'll do it much harm if you can find a way to add a bit on to rudder and/or keel, and being plastic you can always chop it off again and make good if it doesn't work. The bigger rudder on mine transformed the performance and its none the worse for my beefed up skeg which adds tremendous strength (and peace of mind). I figured if it looked right it probably was right - and it was (Victorian engineering principles I'm told). Good luck.
Bob
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jmh2929
11 January 2008 15:24:24 |
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Location: Llandissilio, United Kingdom
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24
Hi, I'm in the process of buying a 26 and may be looking to this site for advice etc in the future. I have read the PBO write up and it would appear that the bilge keeler is a bit short in the keel so giving a lot of leeway. Also rudder slip when over pressed. Anyone else find that?
I've been studying the feasibility of adding a few inches to the keels and skeg plus a bit more rudder. Just a thought at the moment but I need to know what's in the keels and how they're made up. If they are solid, extensions should be possible.
John
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Anonymous user
17 January 2008 20:37:50 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24
I used to have a Snappie 26 and another one in the club had keel extensions of about 6". What it gained in reduced leeway upwind it lost going downwind. Can't tell you how they were done but know it is possible.
Two things that need addressing are the main sheet traveller - you need some means of hauling the sheet up the track and a cam cleat to hold it there. Also the angle at which the the genoa sheets meet the winches. Another sheet guide is needed somewhere or perhaps dinghy type stand-up cars might help.
Solid as a rock.
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Anonymous user
18 January 2008 18:48:00 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 24
Hello again ...
I like the if it looks right bit ...
I will have a look at the rudder and see how strong the attachments are .. on yours is it transom hung .. did you mahe the rudder deeper or wider...
Rob
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Bobwale
18 January 2008 20:51:25 |
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Location: United Kingdom
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
Rob
My rudder was transom hung when I got it but that was not originally the case. I built a new section level with the cockpit seats at the rear of the cockpit just forward of the stern locker where my rudder stock now emerges. There is a bearing there, another where it penetrates the hull and a third at the bottom of the extended skeg. If you Email me at bob.wale@ntlworld.com I could send you some pictures. I also videoed the work in progress so could put that onto a DVD for you if required. My rudder/skeg arrangement is completely non standard but works well.
JMH2929 - the keels are part of the moulding to the hull in GRP (very solid) and filled with lead shot ( except on some "Friday afternoon jobs" which were filled with what was handy or so I'm told.) Yes you should be able to and a bit on though I never bothered. A book called "The Fibreglass Boat Repair Manual" by Allan H. Vaites should tell you all you need to know should you want to take this on. It seems totally possible to me but the down wind performance will no doubt suffer from the increased drag, but then what fun is sailing down wind anyway?
Regards
Bob
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Anonymous user
06 February 2008 16:23:02 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
Hi everyone, My dad recently passed away and i have a snapdragon boat which i need to sell as i do not have sea legs. I have tried some yaught brokers who do not seem interested in the boat because of its age. I was wondering if any of you people on here know who to contact or who would be able to sell my dads boat. The last broker who looked at it says it still has its original engine and he said he can not tell me what condition it is in unless i get it on dry dock. I do not understand the first thing about boats so I am looking for help from you please
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Anonymous user
12 February 2008 15:09:10 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
interested in your boat. Please respond.
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Anonymous user
14 February 2008 12:23:43 |
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
Hi you can e-mail me at nicolabrierley@btopenworld.com
about my dads boat
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richard turner
16 February 2008 15:23:44 |
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Location: dorset, United Kingdom
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Re: SNAPDRAGON 26
I've just bought a snapdragon26 that had been out of the water for some years. I've recently put the sails back on having replaced all the halyards. Can someone please tell me weather the genoa sheets go on the outside or through the rigging back to the winches. I think its outside but the lee sheet gets snagged like that. Please help!
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Anonymous user
23 February 2008 03:28:35 |
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Snapdragon 26 in Vancouver, Canada- mainsheet traveller?
Hello all-
I have never sailed before but I bought this boat when I saw it. Found out later on the internet that it was a Snapdragon. I've been getting it ready to sail (worst part is a slow leak coming from somewhere... possibly propeller shaft stuffing box) but my most pressing problem is that I don't know what to attach (which blocks/pulleys, etc?) from the mainsail boom to the traveller (a steel cylinder about 1/2" in diameter).
Anybody have a picture or know what kind of parts I should be looking for?
Here's a picture of the boat when it was out of the water; I bought it moored and it's been floating (with the leak...) ever since.
Happy to have found this community and thread!
snolan26@hotmail.com
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Mark Aplin
17 April 2008 10:46:39 |
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Location: Sheerness, Kent, United Kingdom
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Re: Snapdragon 26 in Vancouver, Canada- mainsheet traveller?
Hi all-
I have recently become the proud owner of a Snapdragon 24 and have spent the last two months refitting the interior and 'decorating'!
I am trying to get her back to original as possible but a lot of the rigging has been altered and I wondered, as after a lot of searching and not finding, if anyone could let me know of the whereabouts of a diagram. If anyone could help, either by email or a reply I would be most grateful.
Thanks in advance
Mark
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Owner of Snapdragon 24 (Magic Dragon)
VWCamperfan@hotmail.co.uk
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baumwebb
30 April 2008 06:40:53 |
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Joined: October 2007
Location: Leamington Spa, United Kingdom
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Snapdragon 26 for sale
Hi, I've owned my Snapdragon 26 for 18 months and have had her refurbished professionally throughout. She's in wonderful condition with basically everything new from loo (unused) to seacocks, wiring, sails, rigging including new furling genoa (unused) and Nanni diesel. She's ready to sail and lying ashore on the Isle of Wight, GB, in a beautiful marina near Cowes (which has lots of new trot moorings). Its been a labour of love with no expense spared, she's the best! Reason for sale - my age!, lack of crew and a new project; a power boat. Email: baumwebb@aol.com for pictures and more details
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