COPPERCOAT ANTIFOULING

Anonymous user

22 June 2007 09:19:32

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I am contemplating using this product on 31 ft sloop in Hamble river (heavy fouling area). Any personal experience on how long it lasts, what maintenance it requires, and any problems would be most welcome

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Anonymous user

21 July 2007 20:44:06

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It does not stop fouling. I don't use antifpouling but my boat is only in for 3 months each year.

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Anonymous user

09 October 2007 20:58:02

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Well thats a truely helpful reply. He asked about Copperboat and you don't even use it so your hardly qualified to comment unless you can back up your statement with examples. We too are looking at copperboat for Portsmouth harbour and will probably go for it next May.

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Anonymous user

17 November 2007 14:31:15

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We have used it on a 29 ft Trintella in Portsmouth harbour for the last two years in the water,
just need a quick blast or rub off of slime once or twice a year
seems no better or worse than AF but dont need repaint every year
Mike

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Anonymous user

24 November 2007 13:00:13

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In the process of getting our Contessa coppercoated, from my research it seems a good product. The only issue is the product is sensative to temperature and humidity when applied so take care if you plan to do this yourself. I played safe and got the proffesionals in, JWS Marine at Southsea, they are very helpfull if you need advice.

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Anonymous user

22 January 2008 14:58:32

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My 33ft Nauticat Motorsailer is in it's 10th year with 'COPPERCOAT' and only comes out of rhe water every two or three years for long enough to replace anodes and check under water fittings, prop, shaft & P-bracket.
The marina (as is their normal practice) jet washes the hull, removing the little bit of loose slime that accumulates over the 2/3 years between lift-outs and that is that. Last time (3 years ago) I did not even lightly sand the surface to "expose new copper" as suggested by the manufacturer and it hasn't prevented this extraordinairily good product from performing.
There are numerous reports concerning the effectiveness of Coppercoat and from on the web and other sources - see Boatowner review where they have personal experience with 'their' boat which is in it's 14th year with the original coating and the boat is 'always' in the water. Don't forget also that this is an epoxy based product and many people use epoxy coatings specifically for assisting with the prevention of any potential osmosis as it is probably the most impervious coating for this kind of application in it's own right!
Just to make it clear I have no ties in any way with the company who makes the product - i am simply an avid supporter of this particular product which saves me time and money and WORKS. please note the name (not Copperboat or Copperbot or any similar sounding name)

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Anonymous user

08 February 2008 17:34:13

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Why don't you all piss off and buy a decent car

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solefish

02 June 2008 12:40:45

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i have used a product simular to coppercoat called Liquid Copper, which has been on my boat for 8 years with no ill effects what-so-ever, best thing about this product is that it is a water based epoxy,and really easy to put on, lots of boats in my yard are now useing LiquidCopper, web www. c-guard.co.uk
good luck...........

solefish

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Anonymous user

15 November 2008 18:27:25

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We put Coppercoat on our 36' Rival in the spring of 2004, we are based in Portsmouth Harbour. The product has never performed as the manufacturer claims and I am now sceptical as to the validity of all their testamonials. It's not that it does not work at all, we get little barnacles or large weed but instead very heavy slime which is a nightmare to get off. The boatyard that lifted us out this year now has policy of charging a surchase to boats with Coppercoat as they are so badly fouled and difficult to clean. There is also another boat near us in the yard which has had a very similar experience with the product. We were very opptimistic about this product when we put it on the boat but are now thoroughly disallusioned. We have spent the last three saturdays rubbing down the hull vigorously to expose new copper in a last ditch attempt, if this does not work we will go back to antifouling. Since putting the product on we have regularly had to scub off three to four times a year because the boat's performance is so bad once the slime builds up. We have also found the manufacturer less than helpful when we asked for advice.

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Anonymous user

16 November 2008 11:02:53

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well i must say in defence of liquid copper, which is what i put on my boat,it is a water based copper resin,and has no relationship with coppercoat what-so-ever, The resin i used was made by Benring and is called C-Guard now and you can visit there site at http://www.c-guard.co.uk/ any one interested in putting it on there boat can always mail me for advice on putting it on,.

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Anonymous user

19 November 2008 16:30:31

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Great for sea water - not so good for the Thames - but you must makes sure that your hull is dry enough before you apply it. Dont fall for people telling you that boats dont dry out so you can apply it any time - thats complete crap - I have just taken a boat out of the water on the Thames. It was epoxy'd before the boat dried out properly and is covered in the worst osmosis I have ever seen .

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Anonymous user

19 November 2008 16:56:08

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Its shame they never used C-Guard from Benring as there one is water based so no worries about drying out, and I have had it on my boat that is in the Thames at Greenwich for the last 5 years with no probs at all, wicked clean bottom all the time......

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Anonymous user

25 January 2009 08:17:33

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Be very careful in how you apply it. I paid a fortune to have my Taiti 75 antifouled with Coppercoat in France and it was patchily applied (we indeed suspect that they did not use all of the paint supplied) result is that I'm having to reapply it 18 months later - very very unhappy
Clara Oman

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Anonymous user

25 January 2009 18:17:11

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as i said before, you should have used C-Guard, then no probs at all

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Anonymous user

04 March 2009 17:18:49

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Are you sure you are using c-guard and not Coppercoat? Coppercoat is water based and is used by a LOT of yacht manufacturer. c-guard doen't seem to be used by any.

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Anonymous user

05 March 2009 08:11:58

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Never heard of it

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Anonymous user

05 March 2009 09:30:36

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ok, to read more about this product go to.. http://www.c-guard.co.uk/ ,one of the best epoxy resins suppliers ever

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Anonymous user

29 July 2009 17:47:07

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ive just talked to coppercoat about antifouling my boat. almost had a heart attack at the price. being a laminator and resin caster myself i suspect that coppercoat is basically epoxy resin with copper powder in it. both ca be bought for a fraction of the price from a laminating supplies company. try matrix mouldings in bristol

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Anonymous user

16 October 2009 14:26:07

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It works - so far for 14 years and the same to come. We have used a number of different copper/epoxy based anti-foulings on our 10m motorsailer including any epoxy 2 packpaint mixed with copper dust. I litre epoxy to 2 Kg copper. it is essential that the hull is totally dry when applied as ours had been out of the water for 5 years. Those who have the boat lifted out, dried for a while, and then coated will see the water contained in the hull bubble off the epoxy.
In August we slurry blasted the hull that also etched the surface, dried it and then epoxy painted with cheap, date expired epoxy paint (£1 a litre). Then we mixed and applied the copper.
The boat has sat on aHamble River mooring for a few years, sailed a 4,000 mile trip around Scotland, etc and now is in the Mediterranean. The stuff only needed a low pressure blast off every winter to clear some slime Every spring we v lightly abrded it with a green scratchy. Now in the Med we dive every week or so and wipe the hull. No winter haul outs, no antifoul paint, no expense. In fact I cannot see that it has really started to wear yet.

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barryg

31 January 2010 10:23:48

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Hi
I am planning to put c-guard on my 25ft boat this spring are you happy with the product, did you put 2 coats only, any comments would be appreciated

Regards Barry Gritz

b.gritz

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Anonymous user

31 January 2010 17:56:15

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i have had it on my boat for 8 years now and just took boat out and its still has a very clean bottom.. strongly reccomend it

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Anonymous user

01 February 2010 09:21:03

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If you want to use COPPER COAT product, the thing is that it has to be very carefullly and particularly applied. when it was first done on our Taiti 75, humidity was too high and the boat was launched too early.
We repeated the process ourselves a year ago and are happy with the result. If you can assure hull preparation, lack of humidity in the environment and the proper curing time (including buffing) then I don't think you'll have any problems. We are in Oman where the water is extremely active; and whilst we have to scrub our bottom regularly in any case the antifouling does work
Clara

coppercoat

Anonymous user

13 March 2010 17:16:37

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yOU STILL HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE BOTTOM, CLEAN THE BOTTOM, BUT NO NEED TO PAINT AGAIN,W HICH SAVES A BUNCH OF MONEY, FOR SURE WORKS!!!

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Anonymous user

23 March 2010 23:32:02

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I am in the U.S. and interested in the Liguid Copper by C-Guard. I have been communicating with Tony Grimes the inventor and owner and am very impressed with what I read. I originally got interested via Coppercoat but their process seems very complicated and I want to use a 2800psi sprayer to apply it. What have you to say for the product and its performance and tips on application?
Thank you, Steve Kratchman Kirkwood, MO

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Anonymous user

24 March 2010 09:16:49

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Well, we redid our Taiti 75 PROPERLY ourselves with Coppercoat just over a year ago (January 09)
we are in a very strong growth area in Oman; and need to clean the boat's bottom every few months of weed (a mammoth operation that involves taking her dry on a beach and hitting her with the pressure machine) which was something I was NOT planning on - the reason I spent this incredible amount of money on the product.
(10,000 EUROS for the original application which was crap)
Anyway. If you are not in a high growth area, where it's cold, maybe it will work well. for me; the only current advantage is that we don't have to repaint (apparently) but we still have the growth ...

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Anonymous user

24 March 2010 13:30:15

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I appreciate all the replies and expert advice received about C-Guard but am confused by all the crossover responses suggesting bad reactions to Coppercoat when the question was about C-Guard and vica versa. If the C-Guard is better than Coppercoat in a seawater condition and is water based, is it easier to apply than the Coppercoat? And if my 39ft. boat is taken out one day,dried off with towels after sanding/blasting off the present bottom paint and allowed to dry for another day or two,would this be sufficient for applying the C-Guard? I would appreciate simple answers for my simple mind? Thank you,
Steve Kratchman USA

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Anonymous user

24 March 2010 13:50:23

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Hello, heard lots about these copper hardantifouling. My neighbour in the harbour told me about VeroMetal Marine M300 , Only 1 layer and should last many years. Sounds easy + quick, I found www.verometalmarine.com - seems to be a german company selling european wide. Since I like the one layer argument I will apply it. Anyone else here ever tried it?? merci

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Anonymous user

24 March 2010 13:52:49

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found this on you tube for spraying Antifouling:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUThOHjOVxY

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Anonymous user

24 March 2010 13:54:02

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sorr ythe llink was for Steve as reply on:

I am in the U.S. and interested in the Liguid Copper by C-Guard. I have been communicating with Tony Grimes the inventor and owner and am very impressed with what I read. I originally got interested via Coppercoat but their process seems very complicated and I want to use a 2800psi sprayer to apply it. What have you to say for the product and its performance and tips on application?
Thank you, Steve Kratchman Kirkwood, MO

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Anonymous user

31 March 2010 17:36:57

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I looked at the site and its information but if it goes on at one coat, what happens to dings, bumps, scratches on bottom or sides. Seems that a thicker base would be better over the long haul. I am going forward with the highly credentialed company of Tony Grimes called C-Guard. Roller application (he suggests not using a sprayer)and water soluble, water washup,and very expensive when shipping to the U.S.,however, when I keep adding up the $600+ taking out my boat each 1 or 2 years, it still adds up to savings I cannot get with any other product domestically. So my numbers tell me I cannot lose. Thank you all for the help given me in making this decision. I am sure all 3 products are great, just in the minds and applications of the buyers will each prove to be the answer to your need. Good Luck, Steve

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Anonymous user

07 April 2010 18:31:26

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Hi,
I've got a Heavenly Twins catamaran (26') based in the Tamar. I applied Coppercoat five years ago on top of International Gelshield, and I'm really pleased with it. The secret is preparation, preparation, preparation. Every year I run the boat up on a beach between tides and wipe the hull down with an ordinary plastic scouring sponge and a bucket of seawater, which is enough to remove all the hitch hikers (just a bit of fine green stuff at the waterline and a bit of slime elsewhere. The whole cleaning operation for both hulls and the central nacelle typically takes about an hour. Apart from that, the boat stays in the water all the year round. From time to time we get the odd patch (maybe 2-3 square feet in total?) of barnacles (which come off VERY easily) which is an indication that the Coppercoat needs a VERY slight abrading in places (literally three or four "rubs" with a bit of wet 'n' dry) to reactivate it. It is a great product, and I have no hesitation in recommending it. It cost me £500 to apply it myself and it used to cost me about £70/year plus cranage when I used conventional self-polishing antifouling. I have no connection with the company - I'm just a very satisfied customer.

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Anonymous user

21 April 2010 11:46:27

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I've tried to get more information from Tony at C-Guard about his Liquid Copper product, so far without success. If anyone has more info. particularly the need to completely dry out the bottom, rather than just touch dry, this would be appreciated.
Also, has anyone used the German product from VeroMetal - M300 marine? It's described as ' copper particles in a proprietary polyester binder'. Only requires one coat and claims to last 10+ years. Cheers

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Anonymous user

21 April 2010 13:47:27

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I would say that since coppercoat is an epoxy coating, it would be wise to get the hull bone dry, just as you would if you were applying something like gelshield.
You might get away with it, but equally you might find it will blister after a while - I had a damp patch on one of my rudders and although I had been meticulous in the preparation, it blistered. (the rest of my boat had been expoxied years before, and was OK. I had not epoxied the port rudder...)
Good luck!
John

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Anonymous user

21 April 2010 17:01:12

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Hi there, i have worked with Tony Grimes for a few years, and am surprised that you have not been able to talk to him as he is a very helpful chap,what was it that you need to know about Liquid Copper?

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Anonymous user

21 April 2010 17:04:15

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I would not think that a polyester would last as long as an epoxy,but then if its cheap maybe it would be worth a go?....

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Anonymous user

21 April 2010 21:32:57

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If you are in the UK he may be on vacation or at a boat show, however, my pursuit of information and ordering was done via email and due to time differences I emailed during day and he responded by the next. I am in possession of 10pkts. of C-Guard and anxiously awaiting the process which I will perform myself after scraping/sanding/powerwashing the bottom.

To answer your question about wetness, the product is mixed using water and cleanup with water. So if the bottom has dried off by air overnight it has to be OK to use even if humidity is high. I now understand the confusion over all these copper names being used in the bottom coat industry. There is Coppercoat, C-Guard and VeroMetal. What I found was that the coating by C-Guard using water based had as many using it as many years as the others with much less need for solvents, cleanup rags, environmental concerns, etc. I do not know about the comparison costs of USD and the BP but it seems that with shipping costs added to send the 10pkts. to me in the USA, C-Guard was about $100/pkt. USD while I could buy Coppercoat for $125/pkt. directly from within the USA. Only two factors sold me, i.e., environmental impact of using a water based product and longevity of use as indicated by reviews on this site. The fact that Tony Grimes was such a gentlemen and so helpful in addressing my many questions and responded as needed added to my confidence that I was making a good decision. FedEx promised the order to be delivered within 2 days and it was delivered in 2 days. As I discussed with Tony, it would seem this to be the answer for him to market successfully the product in the USA without having to have a manufacturer here. Just fill the orders and add the freight. $77/pkt. BP added to shipping came to about $110/pkt. USD. If this does work on my boat for even 6yrs. I am happy..

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Anonymous user

22 April 2010 08:07:39

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Thanks for the responses. I'm actually in New Zealand so also suffer time difference problems. I've e-mailed and phoned Tony who promised to respond - but perhaps he's having system problems. I'll try again.
I also liked the idea of the C-Guard being a water based product and not needing to potentially dry out the boat over a lengthy period (especially as we are going into winter over here - even if the weather isn't as bad as the UK!). One other concern that I had was that this product relies on the high percentage of copper it contains (can anyone say how much?) whereas other types of ant-foul that contain copper also rely on a biocide to help combat slime. So is C-guard as effective against slime or do you need to rub the bottom more often? Anyone have any information about past performance? Thanks

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solefish

22 April 2010 10:08:33

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I was the one who posted the two posting but forgot to log in, I have worked with Tony, and you seem to have all the knowledge that you need , I have just put the phone down from talking to Tony, so he is available, good luck with your project...

solefish

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Anonymous user

05 May 2010 10:06:16

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Try Verometal Marine M300 Antifoul you can see it at www.verometal.co.uk / marine

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Anonymous user

13 May 2010 23:04:56

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Please watch the video from verometal at youtube absolutely amazing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTv3EBF5h1E
also www.verometalmarine.com

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Anonymous user

21 May 2010 17:20:18

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How long does it last?

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Anonymous user

22 May 2010 07:40:25

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My coppercoat has been on for five years, and the boat has just had her first haulout since it was applied. There were a few bits which needed touching up where floating debris in the water had put scratches and dings in it, but apart from that it is still going strong, with just a quick wipe down with a sponge once or twice a year between tides. Coppercoat is great stuff!

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Anonymous user

05 August 2010 08:16:01

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Hi I am a boat painter have been applying Coppercoat on dozens of boats over the last 8 years in the U.K and Australia. When this product is applied correctly it is a fantastic product and does work very well. When its not applied correctly it will get very heavy growth on the hull . I have known at least 4 people who have had a life span of more than 14 years from one application of Coppercoat. Here are a few tips to having great success with Coppercoat . You must apply at least 4 or 5 coats of Coppercoat , ALL ON THE SAME DAY. If you don't apply all the coats on 1 day the product simply won't work .
You must stir the mixing bucket almost non stop or the Coppercoat will sit on the bottom of the bucket and you will only apply epoxy on the hull. Before launching only wet rub with a green cloth scouring Pad (dishwashing Pad) to expose copper.A lot of people make the mistake of using a course sand paper this only roughs up the surface of the Coppercoat and marine growth will grow very quickly.

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Anonymous user

05 August 2010 09:15:15

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I agree with your comments about coppercoat,additionally after 5 coats and drying the product should be sanded before going in the sea. A better product is Verometal Marine M300 - 1 Coat only no after sanding required, it has 2 hardeners 1 for colder conditions. Look at their website at www.verometal.co.uk/marine for more details or phone 01604 817781 for a brochure.

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Anonymous user

06 August 2010 14:10:32

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It's not particularly fair to link the likes of Verometal M300 with Coppercoat. Coppercoat has been around for almost 20 years now and has been used by over 35,000 during that time. It would have been discontinued years ago if it didn't work. How many boats have been treated with M300? Is it up to double figures yet? Similar story for C-Guard - I have never seen it advertsied in the UK marine press, never seen it tested by the UK marine press, never seen it exhibited at a UK Boat Show and do not know any major boat buidlers that offer it as standard or as an option. People chose Coppercoat not only becuase of the product, but also becuase of the size and reputation of the manufacturing company their prestigous client base. For those that are interested the website is www.coppercoat.com

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Anonymous user

06 August 2010 20:19:58

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Just came across your inquiry again and decided to answer now since I have rolled on C-Guard for the first time use of this product in the U.S.A. Having rolled it on in April and in the water all this time would usually have all kinds of barnacles and slime. I have brushed it off once and did get some light slime to brush off but a diver was under and the only area having barnicles was in the centerboard well and on the centerboard which I was unable to clean deeply nor lift and paint before putting the boat back into the water. So far I am very happy with how it is working and the environmental impact of using water and not solvents to mix. On the label I seem to remember that it was 99.7% copper powder...and that is more than any copper bottom paint we have in the U.S. In addition, my water line area where the coppoer is visible is getting a copper patina. Literally, by using this product I do feel that I have a copper bottom, not just a 2-3 year coating that wears off getting ready to repeat the process.
I am aware that many multi-hulls can paint easily the hulls by laying up on a shoreline and other small boats can pull out at little to no cost. But for me, it was going to be $600 for pull, block, bottom pressure wash, put back in. While on the lot, I pay so much a day. The fact I did the work myself, it still cost me $753US the yard charges along with about $1000US. The product will save me a great deal over the next several years even if I do a short haul overnight in the sling to coat my centerboard and the trunk it fits in. I will then be able to really see what is going on with my bottom and this coating.
I hope this helps,
Captain Steve, USA
"YES DEAR"

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Anonymous user

12 December 2010 20:28:48

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It didn't work for me was scraping of at least once a year and the pressure washing when lifted out at the year end .. just thought c-gaurd and coppercoat are the same company

Aquarius Marine Coatings Ltd
Unit 10
St Patricks Industrial Estate
Shillingstone
Dorset

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Anonymous user

12 December 2010 20:49:31

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c-guard product is called liquid copper and not related to coppercoat at all, good to see you post your thoughts on this product, which one was it you used?.

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Anonymous user

12 December 2010 21:08:19

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Pehaps I can help identify one from the other. There are two copperinfused bottom paints from the UK. One is called Coppercoat which is needing common painting safety equipment using alcohol as a diluting/cleaning agent and the bottom has to be very clean and very dry prior to application. Due to the operational procedures and prepping needed I opted to go to the other product which has all kinds of approvals from Her Majesty, the Royal Navy, etc. No, probably not very many boat yards would use either product that results in a reduction of labor and product charges! Unless the yard was more interested in their customer appreciation instead of their bottom line why would they use either copper bottom paint other than those needing pulling out every 2-3 years.

As for the product I applied, C-Guard, this is 99.7% copper powder in an epoxy/water solution in a self contained pot with all the application equipment included except for the roller pad applicator. Siimple, easy, you do a stirring before loading the roller each time. The real pluses to this product is it is water based so you just wash off the equipment and/or your hands after painting and it does not emit an odor while applying. Obvious is the environmental factor. Both products are equally expensive but when considering my cost of hauling out, paying daily on the lot, etc., the payback is three years and some damage to the boat each time when taken out. I have my own bottom scrubber I made from PVC piping and roof tar brushes so I am pretty much self contained to clean off the bottom when needed. When taking the boat out to redo the centerboard and trunk while hanging in the sling, I had heavy growth inside and on the board but nothing on the hull where the C-Guard was applied. So far I am a very happy camper. Some of the C-Guard dried onto my stainless steel scraper from the original bottom job and I had to hammer and chisel it off so I feel pretty secure that the bonding of the C-Guard is not compromised and will be on for a long long time. I will be happy to reapply it if it stops performing in 6-8 years. NOTE: The most important feature that sold me on this product was the fact that the hull can me moist but not wet. Also, if the present bottom paint is strongly attached to the hull cannot be flaked or scraped off, then C-Guard can be applied over it. How much time and money can be saved by these two features? The email conversations with Tony Grimes have always been straight forward answers to my many questions and very courteous. I am the first user of his product in the U.S.A. and so far a very pleased user. I will report any further findings, good or bad later.
Steve

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Anonymous user

13 December 2010 12:57:45

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Look at www.verometal.co.uk they have a product called M300 anti-foul . 99% copper and only one coat required. It doesn't need sanding prior to launching they can be very helpful

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Anonymous user

02 April 2011 20:20:59

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Hi
My name is Mike Scott and I am the distributor for c- guard in East Anglia UK
If younhave any requirements or questions please do not hesitate to contact me at michael.scott93@tesco.net and i will contact you by return.

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Anonymous user

26 April 2011 14:59:06

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If you are in the UK he may be on vacation or at a boat show, however, my pursuit of information and ordering was done via email and due to time differences I emailed during day and he responded by the next. I am in possession of 10pkts. of C-Guard and anxiously awaiting the process which I will perform myself after scraping/sanding/powerwashing the bottom.

To answer your question about wetness, the product is mixed using water and cleanup with water. So if the bottom has dried off by air overnight it has to be OK to use even if humidity is high. I now understand the confusion over all these copper names being used in the bottom coat industry. There is Coppercoat, C-Guard and VeroMetal. What I found was that the coating by C-Guard using water based had as many using it as many years as the others with much less need for solvents, cleanup rags, environmental concerns, etc. I do not know about the comparison costs of USD and the BP but it seems that with shipping costs added to send the 10pkts. to me in the USA, C-Guard was about $100/pkt. USD while I could buy Coppercoat for $125/pkt. directly from within the USA. Only two factors sold me, i.e., environmental impact of using a water based product and longevity of use as indicated by reviews on this site. The fact that Tony Grimes was such a gentlemen and so helpful in addressing my many questions and responded as needed added to my confidence that I was making a good decision. FedEx promised the order to be delivered within 2 days and it was delivered in 2 days. As I discussed with Tony, it would seem this to be the answer for him to market successfully the product in the USA without having to have a manufacturer here. Just fill the orders and add the freight. $77/pkt. BP added to shipping came to about $110/pkt. USD. If this does work on my boat for even 6yrs. I am happy..

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Anonymous user

26 April 2011 15:04:06

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C-Guard is now readily available direct from Mike at Boatbuddy Norfolk.
Anyone intersted in a sensibly priced multi season anti fouling C- Guard - Liquid copper is the solution. For full details by email (PDF file) contact me at
boatbuddynorfolk@ tesco.net
www.boatbuddynorfolk.co.uk

Overseas enquiries welcome

Re: coppercoat

Anonymous user

26 April 2011 15:33:19

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Hi Did you manage to contact Tony?
If not I am a distributor for C- Guard here in East Anglia and would be pleased ton forward any information that would help. I have a pdf fact sheet which I could email, just give me a shout. My contact details are:
email michael.scott93@tesco.net

If there is anything I cannot answer I have regular cvontact with Tony who I know will help.

Re: coppercoat

Anonymous user

09 May 2011 16:15:29

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oil really doesn't mix with water does it.

Re: coppercoat

Anonymous user

09 May 2011 16:16:57

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To anonymous
Oil really doesn't mix with water does it.

Re: coppercoat

Anonymous user

17 June 2011 01:59:49

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Except that it's bullshit ... I'm in Oxnard, and it is NOT a heavy fouling area as he said. I've had my boat in the water for three years with standard AF, and no dive service cleaning it, and it looks every bit as good.

Re: coppercoat

Anonymous user

17 June 2011 07:22:06

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I would use Verometal M300 anti-foul its 99% copper and only requires 1 coat

Re: coppercoat

Anonymous user

27 July 2011 21:24:44

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Just had the boat we are buying surveyed, lifted out of water (river)and to everyones amazement especially broker (purchase deal was to include anti-fouling) there was no fouling at all to the hull....boat has been in water for 2 years....repeat..no fouling at all. The hull was just a little slimey, pressure wash and rough up the surface and its ready for ploping back in the water. there was also absolutely no fouling to the shafts 'P' brackets or props, these were treated with Prop-guard grease..amazing stuff. I am a total convert to both products. Found invoices on board for supply of copper coat anti-foul to value of £618 +vat. dated 2005. Money well spent in my opinion...very pleased with product even though we did not know it had been applied until boat lifted. Surveyor very impressed too....broker beside himself as he's saved the cost on anti-fouling.

Re: coppercoat

Anonymous user

10 January 2012 19:04:13

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You all should check out this company called Plate All Inc. ( www.plateall. com ) They offer a real copper that is cold sprayed onto boat hulls and tested to last up to 25 + years in the water.

Re: coppercoat

Anonymous user

25 April 2012 18:31:23

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Oh I have one of those aswell !!!!!!
It's great having the money to do what one likes !!!!

And coppercoat really works. I have it applied to all my boats.

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